Half banana

Joined

• started 79 topics
• posted 3,096 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Half banana

• 
  12

  The "Financial" New System of Things!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the "financial" new system of things!.

  yes, in the new system it will be "business as usual" with the watchtower society's financial arrangement.

  all those beautiful homes are to be built to make paradise complete.. .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Half banana

  It is interesting that they should talk of finances in their paradise. They speak about what is actually on their collective mind.

  The paradise hope is sort of OK until you start examining the actual consequences. It could be envisioned as a continuation of the existing Valium dream of many current JWs, like human automata, they do what they are told to do and wear smiley faces having no deep thoughts or emotions.

  But hey, another hundred billion dead people qualifying for resurrection?

  This would mean not only hard labour and a desperate struggle for food for the survivors of big A but a landscape dominated by the tower-block suburbs of Peking or Hong Kong spread worldwide in an attempt to fit everyone in.

  Thank goodness it's just a fantasy like all JW teachings.

  I think the last straw in my career as a Witness was when it dawned on me that the Watchtower think their paradise is going to be run on Bethel lines and with the same personnel....aaaaaaagh!
• 
  19

  March 2020 Broadcast - Hard Push to Baptism. Why?

  by Smiles in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jw broadcast for march 2020 is a hard push for more baptisms, where mark sanctamonious sanderson makes ready use of the phrase "baptised disciples of jesus" instead of their typical catch phrase "baptised servants of jehovah".

  the "jesus message" is somewhat unusual rhetoric for jehovah's witnesses.

  why the big push for more baptism?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Half banana

  Yes Alanv, you can't leave the JW org without punishment. Child baptism is entrapment and the GB know it.

  It's like the Jesuit boast (borrowed from Aristotle) "Give me child until he is seven and I will show you the man". The JWs are more successful at trapping their children in the cult than finding new recruits among the more discerning adults they find at the doors.

  @Blues Bro, HQ mean that baptised people are the business 'end product' -- loyal unthinking drones. Gawd bless 'em!
• 
  30

  Do you think there will be panic buying of food, guns ect?

  by JimmyYoung in

  1. social
  2. current

  i wonder if there will be panic buying of food, guns, gas ect due to the corona virus.

  what do you guys think?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Half banana

  Has Doomsday preparation ever been useful?
• 
  18

  Transgender sues - because they were ALLOWED to change sex!!!

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. social
  2. current

  you couldn't make this up!

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51676020.

  the emperor's transgender's new clothes syndrome = don't dare define their problem as being psychological, otherwise you're transphobic!.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Half banana

  Gender dysphoria is not necessarily a mental condition, it can be physical. To be a mosaic or intergrade between the sexes is not something anyone would likely choose for themselves.

  The consequences of gender reassignment however brings heavy mental pressures and in an intolerant community, extreme social difficulties too.
• 
  18

  Transgender sues - because they were ALLOWED to change sex!!!

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. social
  2. current

  you couldn't make this up!

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51676020.

  the emperor's transgender's new clothes syndrome = don't dare define their problem as being psychological, otherwise you're transphobic!.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Half banana

  Give them a bit of slack, people with gender issues have immense psychological problems to handle, which most of us can't imagine.

  Better to be understanding rather than ridicule.
• 
  52

  Please help

  by Dano3456 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my wife and i are not religious nor do we want to be.

  we are very set in our spiritual beliefs.

  we have worked with a jw who's family have been like a part of our family for 6 years.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Half banana

  Just remember that your good friends, who are decent people and are "like family", are unfortunately in a toxic cult.

  Why not learn from the internet why the JW cult is dangerous? perhaps you could show your friends why they are going down the wrong path? As it happens JWs smugly believe that they are the only people on earth who are pleasing God and if you try to dissuade them from their beliefs they will immediately resist and try very hard to convince you that their beliefs are the only true ones because they think they are "Bible based". It's almost a hopeless task to talk sense to JWs but for the sake of your children keep a distance from now on.

  Anyone who tangles with the JW cult is going to bring upon themselves enormous problems at some time in the future.

  Usually this means having children or parents who will not talk to you if you don't adopt their religion. Many of us on this site are suffering often years down the line because the JW organisation alienates members within families. Shunning members within the family is just one of the heartless tools of cult control -- for your own peace of mind and love for your nearest and dearest, have nothing to do with Jehovah's Witnesses.
• 
  25

  Coronavirus / Covid-19 - The canary in the coal mine

  by JimmyYoung in

  1. social
  2. current

  is anyone prepping by buying food that has a long shelf life?

  i have been messing with it for years.

  buying fat free powder milk, bullion cubes, rice, beans dried, and other things that has a shelf life of 25 years.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Half banana

  It's interesting to me that the 'prepping' concept is quite alien to Britain as far as information has come to me. Tell me if I'm wrong! I'd never heard the term before looking at ex JW sites. The only time I have actually heard it spoken here was from an American JW with her instructions to get a "go bag".

  Perhaps we are not subject to natural calamities to the same degree as in USA?

  its not a matter of if but when.

  Sounds like JW paranoia from this side of the pond.
• 
  18

  May 2020 Watchtower They Admit, they don't know

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  they'll write pages and pages of stuff and yet they don't have any idea.. here's a paragraph from their latest speculations on future events, bolding is mine.. a prophecy recorded by ezekiel gives some insight into what may happen during the last days of the king of the north and the king of the south.

  if we view the prophecies of ezekiel 38:10-23; daniel 2:43-45; 11:44–12:1; and revelation 16:13-16, 21 as speaking about the same time period and events, it appears that we can expect the following developments.. that's an awful lot of assumptions to make.

  what they've done is picked out various scriptures from different parts of the bible and now state that they may or may not be talking about the same events.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Half banana

  Blind guides is what they are. I think that GB will start to wake up soon when they come to realise that all versions and interpretation of Bible prophecy is completely useless. What on earth is the point of learning a prophecy if it has no benefit in warning people to avoid the dangers of events to come?

  There is not one recorded event in the 140 year life of the Watchtower religion when prophecy has been of the slightest use to anyone.

  No! I'm wrong, I am wrong....... prophesying that 1975 was the likely date for Armageddon brought millions of superstitious new JWs into the fold. They brought not only an upsurge in weekly contributions but they came loaded with family inheritances bequeathed in favour of the organisation and made it very rich.

  So in conclusion, prophecy is a very lucrative business for the leaders of religions but utterly useless for their flock. (so don't be a sheep)
• 
  52

  Please help

  by Dano3456 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my wife and i are not religious nor do we want to be.

  we are very set in our spiritual beliefs.

  we have worked with a jw who's family have been like a part of our family for 6 years.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Half banana

  Thank you for posting Dano3456. It is a fact that Jehovah's Witnesses split families. Most on this site have experienced it, it is not rare, it is normal in JW circles.

  They may seem like decent people and probably are but they are under the influence of others, namely the governing body of their religion -- although they will deny it because they don't realise how they are being controlled. The JW religion ticks every box qualifying it as a cult. JWs will put obedience to these men before anything else, imagining that they are doing their duty to God. This total obedience means doing things such as punishing members of their own family by exclusion should they choose not to be a Jehovah's Witness.

  If you value your family, clear thinking and education, self expression and personal development, have no more dealings with this other family and most especially don't let your own children get sucked into their way of thinking.

  I am not being too alarmist but already your children sound like they are taking their 'friends' ideas on board.

  The antidote is to discuss with them the importance of only believing things which can be proved by evidence. The Bible is not evidence by the way. None of the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses past this test.
• 
  18

  News Reports are "Apostate Lies"

  by truth_b_known in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  with the most recent investigative news report show entitled "the witnesses" i noticed a number of posters whose family members are pimi refer to such shows as "apostate lies.

  " even the governing body (possibly loesch) made such a statement (possibly on jw broadcasting).

  i was thinking of how to reply to such a statement.. first, ask "who is the apostate?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Half banana

  Tangential to your main point t_b_k -- but what the situation demonstrates is the nature of the "language of indoctrination". Apostate lies means more than lies told by apostates.

  As in your example, clearly it covers the critical assessment of non apostates. It covers the meaning of apostate truths as well but Bethel writers cannot give any ground to the possibility that apostates could actually ever talk truth or report facts.

  The phase "apostate lies" coming from HQ is loaded language and it speaks only to JW true believers.

  Firstly it suppresses thinking or analysis. It comes with a layered meaning, it demands by flagging up a warning: have nothing to do with this information because the whole of it is contaminated, don't investigate, don't listen, don't believe it. This feeds into the naive division that there are only two possibilities of choice in life namely Satan's world or Jehovah's. (In each case these two camps are part of the loaded language as well).

  The JW is groomed to respond unthinkingly to the specific language of HQ and part of the compact he or she makes (unwittingly) with the governing body when joining the sect is to relinquish private thoughts and submissively conform to their instructions.

  So very sad for the believer and abusive on the part of the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses.